Unofficial news of Dec. 8 ordination in Victoria

I do not see this announced either in the Diocese of Victoria newsletter or schedule or on the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter website, but I think it is safe to reveal the following:

Former Anglican Catholic Church of Canada (ACCC) Metropolitan Bishop Peter Wilkinson will be ordained to the transitional diaconate on Dec. 6th at 7 p.m. at Victoria’s Queen of Peace parish.

Victoria Bishop Richard Gagnon will ordain Wilkinson to the Catholic priesthood on Dec. 8, 10:00 a.m. at St. Andrew’s Cathedral on the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception.  From what I have been hearing for weeks now, Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson will be preaching at this joyous event.  I understand a number of my readers have already bought plane tickets.

We had hoped that former ACCC Suffragan Bishop for Central Canada Carl Reid would be ordained on the same day here in Ottawa.

This ordination has been postponed, probably into late January.   When I have firm details I will let you know as there are many in the Ottawa area who will want to celebrate with us.

 

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14 Responses to Unofficial news of Dec. 8 ordination in Victoria

  1. Foolishness says:

    Don’t forget to keep Peter Wilkinson and all involved in your prayers.

  2. Rev22:17 says:

    Deborah,

    You wrote: I do not see this announced either in the Diocese of Victoria newsletter or schedule or on the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter website, but I think it is safe to reveal the following:

    Former Anglican Catholic Church of Canada (ACCC) Metropolitan Bishop Peter Wilkinson will be ordained to the transitional diaconate on Dec. 6th at 7 p.m. at Victoria’s Queen of Peace parish.

    Victoria Bishop Richard Gagnon will ordain Wilkinson to the Catholic priesthood on Dec. 8, 10:00 a.m. at St. Andrew’s Cathedral on the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception. From what I have been hearing for weeks now, Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson will be preaching at this joyous event. I understand a number of my readers have already bought plane tickets.

    We had hoped that former ACCC Suffragan Bishop for Central Canada Carl Reid would be ordained on the same day here in Ottawa.

    This ordination has been postponed, probably into late January. When I have firm details I will let you know as there are many in the Ottawa area who will want to celebrate with us.

    Reading between the lines (and I don’t expect any advance announcement of this whatsoever), if this rumor is accurate, I would bet good money there will be two major public announcements at the mass of ordination — (1) the canonical erection of a deanery of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter for the territory of Canada (Deanery of St. John the Baptist?) and (2) the appointment of the newly ordained Fr. Peter Wilkinson as its first dean. I also anticipate that he will be named a Prelate of Honor (the second rank of the monsignori) in due course, but that appointment will NOT occur at the mass of ordination.

    I’m very disappointed to learn of the delay of Mr. Reid’s ordination. I doubt that I’m the only reader who is quite curious as to why, but I’m equally well aware that the matter probably is strictly confidential and potentially also highly personal so I’ll refrain from asking — and I hope that others will do likewise.

    Norm.

    • Foolishness says:

      I don’t know if I would read anything between the lines. I just don’t think they always have time to deal with the public relations aspect in a timely fashion at the Ordinariate level and the local bishops are deferring to the Ordinariate to make the announcements out of courtesy so no one is getting these announcements out. Everyone is trying very hard to not step on anyone’s toes. There’s a lot going on—with a big retreat in Houston this weekend for the next batch of clergy who will be starting their formation program. All of our former priests and their wives are heading down there. I imagine that with the Ordinariate’s small staff they have too much on their plate.

      I don’t think there’s anything suspicious or concerning regarding the delay here in Ottawa. Archbishop Prendergast was later in getting the process started here—the police checks, testing etc. so while everything has been done and approved on this end, now Rome has to take care of things and each individual application for a married Catholic priest has to go to the pope. It takes time, but I do not get the sense from my feelers on the ground there is anything to worry about.

      • Rev22:17 says:

        Deborah,

        You wrote: I don’t think there’s anything suspicious or concerning regarding the delay here in Ottawa. Archbishop Prendergast was later in getting the process started here—the police checks, testing etc. so while everything has been done and approved on this end, now Rome has to take care of things and each individual application for a married Catholic priest has to go to the pope. It takes time, but I do not get the sense from my feelers on the ground there is anything to worry about.

        That does make sense. The Vatican is very meticulous in these matters, and indults don’t get formal approval until all of the proverbial T’s are crossed and I’s are dotted. Unfortunately, the result is that the process moves at a snail’s pace — but it does move, and good things do happen eventually.

        Norm.

      • Don Henri says:

        (Fr.) Charles Warner at the Apostolate of the Holy Cross’ website give writes:
        “Mr. Carl L. Reid, Sodality of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Ottawa, Ontario
        Diaconal Ordination: January 12th ; Priestly Ordination: January 26th”

        + PAX et BONUM

      • Peter Karl T. Perkins says:

        Norm, it is not that the Vatican is meticulous. The problem is that it takes most curialists about a month just to tie their shoes. In Italy, their slowness is legendary. I’ll say no more.

        P.K.T.P.

      • Conchúr says:

        John XXIII was once asked how many people worked in the Vatican. After a moments thought he replied; “About half”.

      • @Don Henry,

        Those dates in January are tentative possibilities, pending the rescript from the Vatican. They are not yet official.

      • Rev22:17 says:

        Conchúr,

        You wrote: John XXIII was once asked how many people worked in the Vatican. After a moments thought he replied; “About half”.

        Yes, the Vatican’s bureaucracies have long been a place to assign clergy — sometimes even cardinals — who, for one reason or another, were disasters in parish ministry but had not done anything deserving of canonical penalties such as suspension or dismissal, and the reality is that such individuals, knowing their situation (“I can’t go any higher, and you can’t fire me!”), often lack motivation to any real work. Here in the States, our armed forces have long used “desk jobs” at the Pentagon (our national defense headquarters, so named because that is in fact the physical shape of the building) in the same way — a Navy captain whose ship was involved in a collision at sea, for example, could count on such a position until he reached mandatory retirement.

        Our armed forces also often say that such individuals are “on the ROAD” — the acronym meaning “Retired On Active Duty.”

        Norm.

    • Peter Karl T. Perkins says:

      From here in Victoria, I have heard that the reason this has not been posted on the Fellowship website is purely a practical difficulty. Do not be surprised if the news is announced officially there but I’m not sure about that. These schedules were made over a month ago and are clearly correct. I believe that Peter Wilkinson has his rescript in hand. That is what I’ve heard. The site of the diaconal ordination is the church in Victoria where the Traditional Latin Mass is celebrated each Sunday and on First Fridays and most feastdays. It is the only church in Victoria which has its old High Altar in place, with reredos, chancel step, statues, choirloft. A certain past priest there fought hard to keep that church from being wreckovated in the 1970s, and I can announce that, very soon, that church will also have an Altar rail restored, with gate and houseling cloth. Members of the Latin Mass community will be on hand to congratulate the new ordinand. Two days later, on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, the priestly ordination will take place at St. Andrew (not St. Andrew’s) Cathedral. Fr. Wilkinson, as he then will be, will say his first Mass as a priest of the Latin Church on the next day, a Sunday, at St. Columba Church, which is the place where Anglican Use Masses are sung. This is a very joyous occasion.

      The Deanery of St. John the Baptist has been so designed by the C.C.C.B. that it will likely make a smooth transition to a separate Canadian Ordinariate in time, and there are more in Canada in an ordinariate than there are in Australia. I pray that Peter Wilkinson will be the first Dean and yes, the erection of the Deanery is likely to be announced at or around the same time. I think that he will be appointed Prelate of Honour in due course but not likely this soon. However, one never knows. Pray on it!

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  4. EPMS says:

    Has anyone without an M.Div or equivalent been ordained for the OCSP to date?

    • Foolishness says:

      Maybe our readers from the United States can answer that question.

    • Rev22:17 says:

      EPMS,

      You asked: Has anyone without an M.Div or equivalent been ordained for the OCSP to date?

      All of those ordained for the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter to date are former Anglican clergy coming from either the Anglican Communion or a “continuing Anglican” body.

      >> All of those coming from the former completed a full seminary formation program, leading to an MDiv or an equivalent seminary degree (European seminaries traditionally call it a BMin), in the Anglican Communion, as did all of those coming from “continuing Anglican” bodies who were originally ordained in the Anglican Communion.

      >> In the case of applicants coming from “continuing Anglican” bodies who were not originally ordained in the Anglican Communion, the answer to your question may well hinge on how you define “or equivalent.” It’s rather difficult to teach a curriculum of formal courses in a classroom setting when you have only two or three students. The alternatives are (1) to conduct training and formation through a series of less formal seminars (which actually could be more effective since the teacher would have a lot more flexibility to tailor the instruction to the situations of the individual students) or (2) to send those students to an interdenominational seminary and to augment that formation with a series of seminars that cover denomination-specific matters. The answer to your question then depends upon whether the first of these options is equivalent to an MDiv, at least in terms of the formation that it provides, even though it does not lead to actual conferral of a degree by an accredited academic institution. In reality, it might actually be superior.

      Having said that, I invite your attention to Msgr. Steenson’s tangent comment in response to a question from one of the bishops at the recent plenary session of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, in which he remarked that a significant number of the former Anglican clergy coming into the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter hold more advanced degrees that qualify them to teach in Catholic seminaries.

      Norm.

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